Posts by Billy the Ex-Bethelite

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Watchtower Comments THE GENERATION CHANGE Featuring LEOLAIA

by V in

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

scholar JW -

Post 1556

Alas I cannot help you in your search for the identity of the 'celebrated WT scholars

Alas, if such a knowledgable personage as 'scholar JW' cannot produce the name of even one of these 'celebrated' WT scholars, it can only be the case that "'celebrated' JW scholars" do not exist. Except, perhaps, one may exist in a person's imagination, like Santa Clause or the Easter Bunny.
So, your continued reference to such imaginary "'celebrated' WT scholars" is undeniable buffoonery.

Even apostates have been seen feeding on this food as they receive nothing from the evil-slave class.

Even 'scholar JW' has been so disappointed by the wormwood of Watchtower's teaching that this person is known to have been hungrily feeding at 'apostate websites', seeking meaty spiritual food from Leolaia. Indeed, 'scholar' is provoking arguments in order to dip deeper into the refreshing waters of spiritual truth that flow so abundantly on this website, but are sorely lacking at watchtower.org.
Clearly, even the inept WTBTS has admitted to signing an NGO agreement with the UN in order to obtain a 'library card' to gain vital knowledge... not from Jehovah, Jesus, or the Holy Spirit. No indeed, for their 'faithful slave' seeks knowledge from the 'scarlet colored wild beast'.
Additionally, who needs to receive anything from a faithful and discreet slave CLASS? Who needs to receive anything from an evil slave CLASS? In Matt. 24:45-51, Jesus never spoke the word "class". Or, perhaps, the word 'class' been "invisibly present" since 33 CE?

Post 1536

I disagree that this current Watchtower is amateurish and un-scholarly for it it replete with references to other sources...

I examined the article in question again. By 'replete', I think you actually mean 'devoid'. As I had stated earlier:
the WT article has no evidence of wide reading or research, there is no use of Lexica, Commentaries or Journal articles to support their opinion. The only references they use are their own publications, of rather questionable reliability as their latest version of "present truth".

Regarding the section explaining their re-re-definition of "this generation", the WT article references Revelation-Its Grand Climax At Hand! published by WTBTS, themselves. And of the information used therefrom, it was hardly evidence of "wide reading or research". Would it really be appropriate to only quote oneself and call it "other sources"? The only other reference in the WT article under consideration was to the WT 1995. Do you recall that article? Yes, scholar, that was the old 'new light' that was briefly embraced, but is now refuted and discarded by the same writers.
So, "replete with references to other sources"? Hardly. Any thinking person can dismiss that statement as utter foolishness.

Nice and easy.

B the X

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Ben Stein gets Smack Down by the public at large!

by 5go in

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/expelled:_no_intelligence_allowed.

expelled: no intelligence allowed is a controversial 2008 film[2][3] hosted by ben stein.

the film claims that what it calls "big science" suppresses criticism of the scientific theory of evolution,[4][5] while portraying that theory as having contributed to the rise of the naziholocaust, communism, atheism and planned parenthood.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Too bad God didn't make an appearance in Ben's movie. Maybe the crowds would have been better. But I suppose God has his reputation to think of and didn't want to be associated with this piece.

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Need your support now more than ever

by tooktheredpill in

jw
friends

hello guys!.

as you know, my wife woke up about a month and a half ago.

recently, by "mistake", we talked with her mother, (a hard-core believer) some details that we shouldn't at this moment.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Hang in there TTRP! Give Mrs. TTRP a hug for us.

B the X

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Puke Alert! Today's Daily Text.....

by AK - Jeff in

monday, december 18. .

moseswasbyfarthemeekestofallthemenwhowereuponthesurfaceoftheground.num.12:3.. among the many bible examples that highlight how humble people are favored with a glimpse of gods glory is moses, who enjoyed an intimate relationship with god.

this humble man, who spent 40 years as a lowly shepherd, likely much of it on the arabian peninsula, was highly favored by the creator in many ways.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Come on you guys !

Don't you believe that their ability to munch crackers and sip wine once each year makes them qualified to be Mrs. Jesus Christs?

B the X

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Why did Abel offer "fatty pieces" to Yahweh?

by easyreader1970 in

from my understanding--at least from my instruction from the wbts--humans were not permitted to eat meat by yahweh until after the flood.

if that is true, then why would abel offer tasty, delicious "fatty pieces" to yahweh?

how would abel even know how to cut up an animal for food and know which parts were the best for eating?.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Welcome Rivington !!!

Any other thoughts on Moses' storytelling?

B the X

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Watchtower Comments THE GENERATION CHANGE Featuring LEOLAIA

by V in

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Scholar

Post 1541

Because you have not found the 'celebrated WT scholars' does not mean they do not exist. Did you look under your bed at Bethel or look into your wardrobe? Surely, you must have found at least one! The identity of this group must remain anonymous so Alas I cannot assist you as to there identity. Publications of the Watch Tower are not lies but are based upon careful research and champion God's inspired Word for if these publications then why are such publications spiritual food for apostates. Apostates publish nothing, no commentary, no articles or books based on the Bible . Such an evil slave class offers no spiritual food but they harp and carp being critical of what the FDS publishes. This is blatant hypocrisy so if you have something to say or something better to say then have it published and be honest about it.
If you have a better interpretation of Christ's presence and the generation then write it up and publish it so that any reader can benefit. In other words, Put up or Shut up!

Don't cloud the issue, I'm simply asking about those 'celebrated WT scholars' you keep harping and carping on. Or do you really believe that the 'celebrated WT scholars' have been 'invisibly present' in Bethel under my bed or in my wardrobe since 1918. Wow, yer a freakin'... scholar.

Come on Scholar, if they're "celebrated" where's the celebration? "Anonymous" why? Would you trust an anonymous brain surgeon? Are they anonymous because they are as unqualified 'scholars' as Joe Rutherford? Come on. Name just one of these JW scholars you keep talking about. I'm on pins and needles. Maybe you'll hit the jackpot and name... me. Yep, if your a good JW, my work is in your theocratic library. Does that make me 'celebrated'?

I'm just asking you one question. Who are these 'celebrated WT scholars'? Is it that hard to come up with even one "'celebrated' JW scholar"? Put up or Shut up!

Apostates publish nothing? Ray Franz is a published author. Isn't the Catholic Church 'apostate'? Don't you consider all of Christendom "apostate"? Isn't all of Babylon the Great "apostate"? Do you think that every book, commentary, or article in the world has only been published by the WTBTS or by believing JWs? "Better interpretations of Christ's presence and the generation" have already been written up and published. You're simply clouding the issue that the WTs latest interpretation of 'the generation' is a pathetic attempt to hide their humiliation from their previous false prophecies regarding the generation being 70-80 years from 1914.

By the way, you haven't answered my other question, oh great and wise scholar. Who's Gilbert Simental? Put up or Shut up!

And great scholar, please dip into your deep well of wisdom and answer a bit more. Why are the Faithful and Discreet Slave terminating the Divine Congregation Book Study arrangement and shortening up the meetings even more? Why can't the Holy Spirit help JWs make a little more money to afford gasoline to make it to that meeting each week? Shouldn't they be having even more 'celebrations' to consume such rich spiritual food? Put up of Shut up!

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Why did Abel offer "fatty pieces" to Yahweh?

by easyreader1970 in

from my understanding--at least from my instruction from the wbts--humans were not permitted to eat meat by yahweh until after the flood.

if that is true, then why would abel offer tasty, delicious "fatty pieces" to yahweh?

how would abel even know how to cut up an animal for food and know which parts were the best for eating?.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

For that matter, why was Abel a shepherd? Why was Jabal a livestock raising nomad? They were all vegetarians before the flood. They could have gotten animal skins for clothing from any dead animal.

There is no mention of drinking milk. Was Abel really a sheepsmilkman? Or a cheesemaker? Or a weaver and a tailor? Nope. The Bible says he raised sheep. Why? To slaughter for Jehovah, evidently. So what did he eat? He probably stole from Cain's fields.

Or, perhaps sheep were actually considered a vegetable before the flood. Or maybe sheep crap was a pre-flood type of chocolate cake...?

B the X

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What if they are about to "close the ark door"?

by Mickey mouse in

we know the book study is about to be cut.

i am reading talk here of the preaching work being declared "over" and possible changes in disfellowshipping policy.. we know the wbts is running low on funds.

they don't make money from the literature and the new recruits are going straight back out of the revolving door.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

If they "close the ark door", they better be sure to punch some air holes and have plenty of food, because they're going to be in there until they all die off.

blk - WTBTS still has lots of money and assets. However, they are a spending organization. They can, and do, go through money very quickly. I never had access to the books, but in some departments, we could tell when the money was coming in... and when it wasn't. Many of their cost saving measures also resulted in reduced income. Sorry I can't be more specific about details.

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The preaching work has been accomplished! The Watchtower Society is now a..

by DT in

jw
friends

construction company!.

please pardon the wild speculation.

i'm just thinking about the money.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

I think they would like to be a bank. Congregations are already supposed to deposit their extra funds with WTBTS. Supposedly, this is since they can attract a better interest rate and use the money to build more KHs. Yeah, right.

They can pull off a fair amount of construction work, but it's limited. The problem with construction has been that the quality and availability of workers is spotty and engineers are scarce. Too often, the labor isn't as free or as good as they'd like. And disputes and problems are frequent.

B the X

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The hidden Watchtower writers.

by edmond dantes in

the watchtower smoke and mirrors dept.

are very fond of saying that appostates who post on the internet are like satan in eden hiding their identity just like the devil who used the serpent.. this begs the question why do the awake and watchtower writers need to hide behind the printing presses of the evil tower, what are they ashamed of or more to the point what is the govening body frightened of ?.

maybe the book club and rip off society are guilty of identity theft in not declaring the names of their writers..

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Agree with previous posts. Additionally, I'll add three points:

Most of the articles don't have just one writer. It may have started with a DC or other talk by the Teaching Committee, or ideas solicited from Bethel heavies in other departments like Service. Otherwise, it will be ideas started within Writing Dept that are assigned out to writers. When they flesh it out, it gets passed along and the original writer probably won't see it again. The next series of superiors will make changes. It will go on to reviewers and proofreaders. Then final approval by committee. In some cases the final is almost the same as the original. Other times, it will be nearly unrecognizable to the original writer.

The writers already have huge egos. When they travel out for speaking assignments, they will make it clear that they are with Writing (gimme a green handshake and I'll tell you a story). Also, they may try to mimic material from popular articles to clue folks in to what they've written or would like to take credit for writing.

WT writers have no credentials. WTBTS had already gotten in trouble a century ago for claiming scholarship where they had none. With the "this generation" WT study, there are no writers on staff with sufficient credentials to give an indepth explanation of the basis of the craptastic 'new light'.

B the X